In this episode, Ruth talks to Rebecca Daniel, an Optimus Coach Academy graduate and former teacher. We discuss the importance of working with other people, learning and development and having fun.

Here are the highlights from this episode:

{2:46} The new Brene Brown and Oprah

{5:42} You need people around you

{9:26} It's hard for people to let go

{12:50} I wanted more time for myself

.{16:06} Neglecting learning & development

{20:19} I felt guilty for having fun

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